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MacSafeWater Blog is being revived (and renamed). Stay tuned!

June 18, 2013

Hi Folks:

This blog has been rather inactive in the last 2 years. Mainly because the three founders of the blog no longer live in the area and nobody else has stepped up to take the over. In light of the recent vote in Portland, there are many in Yamhill County who feel that the water fluoridation issue is of real importance. For that reason, myself and several local residents will be involved in the revival of this blog. Thank you.

John Collins


The Latest Great Awakening (a.k.a. A Return to Common Sense)

August 12, 2011

Analogous to one of the Great Awakenings, a segment of Western nations continues to awaken to the necessity of its physical and sovereign redemption. Our awful situation compels us to warn and persuade others. At times it feels like our neighbors and leaders need to be kicked and shaken out of bed to wake up. Here’s a kick-in-the-pants, splash of cold water and packet of smelling salts for our friends. 

Three events occurred this week to prove that the momentum for safe drinking water continues to be a national (although it’s certainly alive in all Western-influenced nations) phenomenon:

  • Fluoride Action Network and Dr. Joseph Mercola have together declared the week of August 8th – 13th Fluoride Awareness Week
  • Philomath (Oregon) City Council stood its ground in reconfirming their decision to discontinue hydrofluorosilicic acid in the town’s drinking water. We applaud their decision and ask that you let them know you appreciate them. Please note that the council was ready to withdraw its decision before safe water advocates came out in support of them. According to eyewitnesses, Mayor Schaudt gave a Top Ten list of reasons for the reaffirmation (thanks SW and BM):

    Better check for "bedhead" after you wake up!

1.       “Freedom of choice is precious to all Americans.  Its value must be protected.  Putting fluoride in our water supply; some people refer to it as unethical because individuals are not being asked for their informed consent prior to medication.  That’s true, we’re not.  We’re not asking everybody if they want fluoride in their water.  I think that’s an injustice.”

2.       “FDA confirms that fluoride meets the legal definition of a drug and has approved its topical in toothpaste and mouthwash but the FDA has not approved fluoride compound ingestion for the purpose of carries reduction.   Fluoride compounds such as hydrofluorosilicic acid used in Philomath’s drinking water never received approval from the FDA.  That’s a strong reason, that’s why it’s #2 on my list.  The EPA does regulate fluoride in the water…as a contaminant.”

3.       “The Fairbanks Alaska city council 54 page document.”

4.       “The contamination of fluoride going back into the environment.”

5.       “The ineffectiveness of delivering fluoride to citizens.  If this (was) evaluated as a method of delivery and the waste of public dollars on the inefficiency of a delivery system this one probably has to take the cake in a lot of municipalities across the country….one estimate is that people only drink one half of 1% of water used municipally.”

6.       “Philomath already has naturally occurring fluoride on a level of 0.2ppm”

7.       “The potential of unknown health concerns (of) fluoride impacts to all citizens.”

8.       “The [JR Simplot] hydrofluorosilicic acid product label has no warranties & no guarantees.  There is no one standing behind this product and the effects it will have on us currently, and I don’t see anyone standing behind it in the future.  That’s a concern to me. ”…we had confidence in it [H.A.]…but they [JR Simplot] don’t have the confidence in it to give us a warranty or guarantee.  And to me that’s a sign.”

9.       “We do not put fluoride in the water here in Philomath.  We put hydrofluorosilicic acid, obviously it’s diluted, into our water system….this is a toxic agent, no question”.

10.   “The level of fluoride ingested is a legitimate health concern” (Schaudt references a tube of toothpaste which has the warning ‘call poison control center’).  The ADA is now approving non-fluoridated toothpaste.

  • A lawsuit was filed on Tuesday (press release and here) against Metropolitan Water District of Southern California “citing that MWD of SoCal has made claims of safely and effectively treating and preventing dental disease in recipient consumers, while selecting and delivering a hydrofluosilicic acid drug through their water system that has never been approved for safety and effectiveness, nor in the expected dosages delivered by MWD through retail water districts, either topically, systemically through ingestion, or trans-dermal exposures through baths and showers.”

“At this late hour, living on the brink of world catastrophe, there is no footnote that will persuade. Public opinion has so hardened, and is so determined to enforce an erroneous view of (hydrofluorosilicic acid and any of its variants), that only a fool would step forth and risk his peace of mind by challenging the error. Thus, my own foolishness appears. What began as an attempt to wake the town and warn the people ends as an academic exercise in sociology.” (J. R. Nyquist, Origins of the 4th World War) Editor’s note: I added the paranthetical words to fit our situation

Philomath Update: Size Doesn’t Matter

July 14, 2011
Trust me!

A spokesman for the manufacturer

I was at the Philomath city council meeting this last Monday evening (July 11th) and watched safe water advocates defend the council’s unanimous decision to cease adding hydrofluorosilicic acid to its drinking water. Philomath, with a population of approximately 4,500, proves that no town is too small to defend in this information war.

The city council voted, 7-0, to remove hydrofluorosilicic acid from its drinking water after sending out a public notice to its constituents and not getting any feedback. Local health professionals, finally taking notice, appealed to the council at subsequent meetings and by securing a guest column in the Oregonian.

Of the 25 people commenting before the council, almost half gave their support:

  • 13 disagreed with the council’s decision to remove hydrofluorosilicic acid
  • 11 safe water advocates supported the council
  • 1 was neutral, asking that the citizens decide the matter

Furthermore, attendees were found to have come from Keizer, McMinnville and Portland.

Other interesting notes from the meeting:

  • One health professional claimed that fluoride was a nutrient (we know it’s a halogen and can only bind to minerals)
  • Gazette Times (Corvallis OR) picked up on the false claim that fluoride is a mineral
  • One health professional claimed that a prominent local Nephrologist (kidney specialist) says that water fluoridation isn’t an issue for kidney health (more on this, soon)
  • Raquel Bournhonesque, from Upstream Public Health, traveled from Portland to tempt the council from its decision (more about Upstream Public Health, soon)
  • Hydrofluorosilicic acid, the chemical added to Philomath’s drinking water,  was mentioned multiple times along with its producer J R Simplot
  • The council was reminded, multiple times, that third-party claims are not a substitute for a declaratory statement of safety and effectiveness (J R Simplot is the only one who can make such a declaration; more on this, soon)

The council has graciously given three months’ time to hear from all concerned parties and will rule on their unanimous decision at the August 8th meeting. Please contact the Philomath city councilors or City Manager Randy Kugler to express your support for their decision.

I’d like to end this post with one of many quotes and analogies that can summarize the fight for safe drinking water:

Most of the major ills of the world have been caused by well-meaning people who ignored the principle of individual freedom, except as applied to themselves, and who were obsessed with fanatical zeal to improve the lot of mankind-in-the-mass through some pet formula of their own…The harm done by ordinary criminals, murderers, gangsters, and thieves is negligible in comparison with the agony inflicted upon human beings by the professional ‘do-gooders,’who attempt to set themselves up as gods and who would ruthlessly force their views on all others with the abiding assurance that the end justifies the means. (Ezra T. Benson, quotes Henry G. Weaver, An Enemy Hath Done This, p. 140)

Going to sleep now, g’night, ZZZzzzzz

February 8, 2011

This blog is going on semi-permanent hiatus. We have had nothing to post on activities in McMinnville for quite some time. What we discovered was that three critical elements have been missing: willing, able, enough.

* willing – wanting to learn everything necessary to do what needs to be done to abolish McMinnville’s voter-approved (50 years ago) requirement that the city-owned water department add fluoride to our water.
* able – having the time and experience to do those things, rather than waiting for someone else to do it.
* enough – there were several local people who were willing and/or able, but there were not enough to get the job done.

Until such time as this community assembles the necessary ingredients for success, this blog is going to sleep.

We recommend that you visit the other no-fluoride blogs and read the news items on the RSS news feed located in the right hand column of this blog.

Thank you for visiting. Good night all.

Fluoride supporters getting desperate

January 24, 2011

An editorial, noted on the RSS news feed to the right of this post, and entitled “The benefits of fluoride should no longer be open to debate,” shows just how desperate pro-fluoridation editorialists are getting these days.

Here’s a sample of the verbal attack which never addresses the scientific evidence piling up that debunks this religiously-held belief in fluoridation as a panacea for cavities.

The author says she’s glad she doesn’t have to sit in the Alberta city council chambers to listen to “the conspiracy theorists who flock to such meetings in tinfoil hats, swearing they are receiving radio messages from the ether.”

She’s wrong. Clearly she’s never been to one of those meetings. I’ve been to many. The rest of her screed isn’t worthy of rebuttal. It is full of non sequiturs, personal attacks and irrelevancies, like her childhood.

’nuff said.

Shocking information on fluoridation in NY state

January 24, 2011

Here’s an interesting post summarizing studies and reports on the effects of fluoridation in New York state.

Heavily footnoted, this is a list of facts relating to the inefficacy of fluoridation just in NY state alone. Here’s a sample of some of the dozens of entries:

Noting that NYC has been fluoridated since the 1960’s, the report cites:

— According to New York University’s School of Dentistry, “The need for dental care is especially acute among impoverished (NYC) children, who have 60 percent more untreated cavities than their peers at higher socioeconomic levels.” (3)
(3) New York University, School of Dentistry, “Speaker Miller and City Council Expand Dental Services for Needy Children”

— Lack of oral health care for adults in Harlem is a hidden crisis, write researchers in the American Journal of Public Health. (4)
(4) “Lack of Oral Health Care for Adults in Harlem: A Hidden Crisis,” Zabos, et al, American Journal of Public Health, January 2002, Vol 92, No.l

We recommend that you glance at the complete list – it is shocking. If fluoridation is so great, why do we have these many examples of its failure?

NYC council member introduces no fluoride proposal

January 22, 2011

As noted on the Fluoridation News Feed column on the right, here’s a press release from the NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc. noting that on January 18, 2011, NYC Council Member Peter Vallone, Jr. introduced legislation (Int 0463-2011) “prohibiting the addition of fluoride to the water supply.”

The release goes on to note, with copious links, that opposition to fluoridation is growing and that numerous medical people are coming on board. Other key points note:

NYS communities that stopped or rejected fluoridation include: Rouses Point, Levittown, Canton, Corning, Johnstown, Oneida, Carle Place, Riverhead, Rockland County, Suffolk County, Western Nassau County, Albany, Beacon, Poughkeepsie, Central Bridge Water District, Homer, Ithaca, and Amsterdam.

NYS Department of Health statistics show NO benefit from fluoridated water. See:

Vallone is one of 51 members of the council. His city website does not mention fluoride or fluoridation yet, but the referenced code number, Int 0463-2011, is listed on the Legislation page for the NYC council as being introduced and sent to committee.